View Full Version : The candidates and games

12-11-2007, 10:33 AM
There is an article on the nytimes website about children and media (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/the-candidates-tough-stances-on-tv/?hp). As usual some of the candidates (for those outside of the US, I mean the candidates for US president) seem to be reasonable and some are just scary. The fairly reasonable, Senator Edwards and Senator Obama and Governor Richardson basically said they were inclined to let the gaming industry police itself as a first step, but if it couldn't police itself well enough then they would want the federal government to step in.

Governor Romney on the other hand had this to say: “we get serious against those retailers that sell adult video games that are filled with violence and that we go after those retailers.” Um, are we still talking about children and violent video games or is Romney just trying to get rid of violent video game altogether? Either way do we really want the government to be the ones that say what OUR children are allowed to play and what constitutes violent?

On another note, an article over on Game Politics (http://gamepolitics.com/2007/12/10/where-the-presidential-candidates-stand-on-video-game-legislation/) talks about Romney lumping media violence in with drugs and internet porn and calling the group of them as an "ocean of filth". This is what really scares me about the federal government passing laws about video games. I think some movies, tv, video games, etc. are inappropriate for children, but I wouldn't make a blanket statement about these and call them filth. Just because they aren't appropriate for a particular age group doesn't make them filth. Even when simply talking about the issue he is going too far, what happens if he was elected and starting pushing for real laws? Another issue I have with this statement, violent media is placed into the same group as drugs and internet porn? Are you really serious?

You can see the candidates full responses to the question at Common Sense Media (http://www.commonsensemedia.org/news/specials/question2).

12-11-2007, 05:38 PM
I hear ya.

Over here in Germany it is already pretty bad. Best example was now HGL. I usually try to get the original versions because I prefer English over my own native-tongue (yes really :P). This time however, it is a rather hard thing to do. I heard about a policy that stopped UK and US versions to be shipped/sold to German customers. Not that it would work on the long run but still, the simple idea just sucked. The game is rated 17+ and yet we have a pretty nasty cencored version.

On the 12th I am turning 28... I mean hello? I think I am old enough to decide whether I want to slay zombies or computer generated monsters in a bloody way or not. I am not an aggressive person, I don't own a gun and I don't beat anyone up. But like everyone else I get frustration and aggressions out of different reasons and just starting up a game, like Dark Messiah, and starting to kill of some Orcs helps me to relax. To have some guy in a suit and an office telling me that I am not allowed to do so... really ticks me off.

Concerning children and TV, movies and games... well I think it is the responsibility of the parents to talk and spend some time with their children discussion the meaning and background of games and movies. This also includes limiting their time with the named media. I grew up playing outside with friends, helping with garden work and housework, reading and playing boards and cared games. Additionally I was allowed to watch TV but my mom took the time to check out what I watched.

Of course when staying over a friend's place I used that time to watch movies and shows I wasn't supposed to watch but this did not turn me into an unsocial person. To sum things up: If parents, school and friends of the families (including their kids) would work together and show their children what a 'social life' is and means, there wouldn't be much of a reason to censor games and argue the way all the suits do.

Just my 2 cents :)

I know it sounds like ranting but I just got so fed up with all those politicians trying to decide what I can do and what I can't do.

12-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Germany is a good example of what I worry will happen if the US government starts regulating the video game industry. They will start with something that sounds fairly reasonable and then slowly it will evolve into major censorship for the "good of the people".

12-11-2007, 06:45 PM
It better doesn't go that way. Where am I supposed to get my uncensored versions from? *cries*

The thing with me is, I play games like 'The Sims', 'The Settlers', Civilization and fluffy games as well. But there are days when I want bloody and brutal games to get rid of the aggressions.
There are some games I heard about that I don't think to be correct. I heard about one where you are supposed to be an extremly nasty character that drives people to commit suicide. This is an example for a game that should a) not be made accessible to children and teens b) should definatly be looked at if it is 'ok' for adults.

On the other hand you have 'The Sims' censored when the walked 'naked' into the shower, change the diapers of a baby (because they fear for pedophiliacs to get their satisfaction) or when they sit on the toilet. In my opinion this is simply pathetic.

I cross my fingers for you guys that you won't get a fanatic.

12-12-2007, 11:53 AM
The government knows whats best for you :p I swear, I don't know what is going through peoples minds sometimes when they would rather have their freedom stripped away layer by layer "For their own good!" than to say "Hey, enough is enough. I'm not a child." But I guess it's easier for these people to have poloticians tell them what is good and bad for them. Ehhh just my 2 cents worth too :D